(From "Dogma". Rufus is supposed to be one the disciples of Jesus, come back to help Bethany find her destiny. No more spoilers. Great movie.)
INT TRAIN - NIGHT
Bethany and Rufus sit across from one another. They stare out the window.
RUFUS
How you coping, kid?
BETHANY
It's weird. just when I think I've got a handle on things. something
wholely unbelievable presents itself. Sometimes I wish I had just stayed
home.
RUFUS
You sound like the Man.
BETHANY
(beat)
What was He like?
RUFUS
Jesus? Black.
BETHANY
Besides that.
RUFUS
The brother was centered. I mean, He was God, right? But I think He felt
left out because He was more than human, you know? We used to sit around
the fire - me and the other guys - and we'd be talking about what ass-holes
the Romans were or getting laid...
BETHANY
Some things never change.
RUFUS
...and He'd just sit there listening and smiling. We'd ask Him why He never
joined in the convo, but He said He just liked to hear us talk; about
anything. Said it was like music. I think He just wished He had unimportant
shit to talk about himself.
BETHANY
How does He feel now?
RUFUS
He still digs humanity, but it bothers Him to see the shit that gets
carried out in His name - wars, bigotry, but especially the factioning of
all the religions. He said humanity took a good idea and, like always,
built a belief structure on it.
BETHANY
Having beliefs isn't good?
RUFUS
I think it's better to have ideas. You can change an idea. Changing a
belief is trickier. Life should malleable and progressive; working from
idea to idea permits that. Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit
growth; new ideas can't generate. Life becomes stagnant. That was one thing
the Man hated - still life. He wanted everyone to be as enthralled with
living as He was. Maybe it had something to do with knowing when He was going to die. but Christ had this vitality that I've never encountered in another person since. You know what I'm saving?
BETHANY
He was big on life?
RUFUS
It was more than that. He was the only person I ever knew who never engaged
in that most ancient of life-affirming activities.
BETHANY
Sex.
RUFUS
Debate. That's the only way people know how to reaffirm that they're alive
- by debating. In all it's forms. People spend their whole lives debating:
we fight about who's right and who's wrong, we fight ourselves, we fight
each other, we fight death, we fight over beliefs, we fight over fights. We
believe that to stop debating - in any fashion -is to stop living and give
up. People say that life's a struggle, but it's not. Life is living. I'm
even guilty of it myself, the way I go on about Christ's ethnicity,
fighting for the truth to come out. And I'm dead. Even in death, the only
way I know how to live is through debate. That's sad, isn't it?
BETIIANY
Not if you believe it's important for people to know.
RUFUS
A belief's a dangerous thing, Bethany. People die for it. People kill for
it. The whole of existence is in jeopardy right now because of the Catholic
Belief structure regarding this plenary indulgence bullshit. And whether
they know it or not, Bartleby and Loki are exploiting that belief, and if
they're successful, you, me. all of this... ends in a heartbeat.
(beat)
All over a belief.
Bethany nods. Rufus looks around.
Some people, it goes without saying, find all this a bit irreverent, and as a result miss the point. And yet I've personally spoken to a septegenarian Catholic priest who enjoyed it immensely and encourages people to see it.
I have an opinion in fact, that if people are afraid to look at religious beliefs objectively, then it's actually superstition.
I've accused a few people of this too, and they don't like it. But the conversation ends there, obviously.
To round off this topic, for now at least, because it just doesn't go away, I want you to do a little test for me. It's not a new test, it's been around since I was frequenting Usenet, and that feels like a lifetime ago. They've just updated it, and now you have to give an email, but you can give a fake one, as you'll get your results at the end just fine.
http://www.beliefnet.com/Entertainment/Quizzes/BeliefOMatic.aspx
Don't forget to take the political one that follows.
I am a Unitarian Universalist. I didn't look up what it means. Some of the questions I couldn't answer what I really believe. I believe one should do their best in this world and try to keep it nice for other people. I also believe that we can't know what happens after death until we are there and that we should spend our time here focused on here.
ReplyDeleteThe UUs are good people. They come from all sorts of religious backgrounds, have zero doctrine, and simply affirm everything that's positive. It's sometimes called the atheist church, because it focuses so little on deity. If a person needs the community aspect of a church without the bagge, it's a good option.
Delete>baggage<
DeleteInteresting. It identified me as a Unitarian Universalist. Which is probably as close as I want to be to a label.
ReplyDelete"Beliefs anchor you to certain points and limit
growth; new ideas can't generate."
I like that. I know it took me a long time to admit, honestly, that I was afraid to let go of my beliefs and ask "what if this is true?" but if I hadn't been able to let go, were they worth holding at all?
And growth is the measurement of life. If we aren't growing, the seed hasn't germinated yet.
Exactly.
DeleteI think a lot of people are afraid to face their real beliefs. Because they may not match their Beliefs.
I am apparently a secular humanist. It fits.
ReplyDelete